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[RF]-art555
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Quote from E.Reiljans :Fact: the two people who wrote most bs in this thread have never been anywhere near Crimea.

I can see it by how far from reality their posts are.

They aren't even talking about Ukraine anymore
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Searching for true information in a time of full scale information war, yeah, good luck.
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Pic's or it never happened.......

Just don't bother making claims to have a legal legitimate govt, be happy with an illegal coup supported by Western criminals.


if you still don't get the joke

Any elections in this country is like choosing between softish shit or the one that is smellier. Its not choosing between good or bad, its the one that is less worse.

Current govt is definitely more legitimate than the one before. Why the hell that bothers you anyway?

Quote :Western criminals.

East is something better? Don't think so.
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Yep, we're all nazi's here now, huge bald guys with Svoboda badges are running in the street, grab little children and burn a swastika on their foreheads...

Are you happy now?
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Quote from Yuri Laszlo :http://www.902.gr/sites/defaul ... iko-3_0.jpg?itok=WMQ4y3qI

Some peaceful people forcing communist leader Rostilav Vasiliko to eat a wooden cross.

I'm sorry but I looooled really hard on this, where did you get that crap from?
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Quote from Dmt :This is the same thing that many Ukrainians tell me.




So I just went thru the posts of Nightfly... Amaizing how informed you are and spreading the shi* around...

People, please dont be a victim of any kind of media source.


And all that internet war will result in nothing...
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Quote from Racer X NZ :

Nuland with the Nazi's



Both guys on the left and right are jews.
Several new governors are jews, including one of the most powerful jew of Ukraine (or even Europe) - Kolomoyskiy.

Yeep, nazi's everywhere...


FFS, it just one group of oligarchs fighting against the other, that upset the balance of stealing to much, period.

Nobody really care about people and exploiting nationalists\nazi\whatever is just the way to control people.
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Quote from Anonymous(almost) :Something to read and watch (might translate it later, now I have killer headache)
http://vremia.ua/rubrics/problemy/5124.php

http://gifakt.ru/archives/inde ... yj-proisxodil-na-majdane/
As for now its hard to tell whether the story is true but vids dont lie.

And yet there are lots of vids when unarmed protesters are being hit very hard and even shot to death. Videos of beheaded bodies.

You can find videos and articles for both sides of view and state that they are true and the opposite is false.

Trying to find true information on the internet at the time of information war is pretty pointless.

There are always radical groups of people doing stupid things on both sides, but its not right to make an opinion about whole group of people they are part of.

The only true thing that should be done is stop escalating conflict, both social and international.
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Quote from Anonymous(almost) :the only thing they can do, just be a small loud dog and hope the leash wont break.
Just read what people think about this "situation" www.facebook.com/andriy.parubiy/posts/667812769951576 I cant see them going fighting for those retards who are trying to set two nations against each other.
I mean screw this, lots of people have relatives in Russia, I dont think any one I know personally consider Russia an enemy.

Exactly, brother-nations don't want that sh*t.

Quote :There is no need to compare, except old govt was legitimate and I don't approve of methods used to overthrow it or current govt.

Its legitimacy and what it achieved is very doubtful and worth a separate thread.

I do agree that choosing between EU and Russia is very risky and both won't bring no good, but at least EU has some future positive perspectives.
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Quote from Anonymous(almost) :This is what I meant by "damage control" the fact they even attempted it shows pretty well who is in gov.
Beside, the only reason it was cancelled its not because they think its wrong, its just caused such violent reaction (no wonder considering number of people who speak Russian in Ukraine) they decided its not worth digging themselves right from the start.

Is there any need to compare how retarded some of the actions of former government was? They've set a edge of stupidness so high its probably never going to be beaten and not worth discussing.

P.S. I think I know you. Max?
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Quote from Anonymous(almost) :
When they finally recognized there are people speaking russian in Urkaine, this new govt made this.
http://www.forbes.ru/news/2512 ... yi-status-russkogo-yazyka

The law that cancels the former language law has not been signed - means cancelled - so everything stays the same regarding language.

Whats posted on the internet is not always a solid fact, period.

Why people jump of the answers, Russia is making a mistake by pushing troops into Ukraine, because there are no aggression against any nation right now, people want a united wealthy country to leave in. There thousands of peaceful people on the streets, speaking both russian and ukrainian, but saying one thing: Ukraine is one solid country, regardless weather you are from west or east, south or north. We are all Ukrainians and we ant to live in peace. Politics tried to divide the country throughout the whole time of its independence to get voices on the elections.

We don't want war.

I'm not defending people from new government, they aren't much better than former ones, and some of their statements might be not so wise.

Come out of your house and look what you see. I saw 15k civil peaceful people stating "We don't need war. Ukraine is united." I see army trucks collecting young hot-heads into army.

And what do you see?
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Quote from Racer X NZ :
Crazy theory facts.
Actual facts, most of the Ukraine is Russian, navy has already gone over, most of the army has. That only leaves Kiev, and the US backed Nazi party. Yes, lots of people in Kiev wanted to go to Europe, important point though, most of the rest of the Ukraine is Russian. The coup was engineered by the US/Bankers (cough cough) , the evidence is in my earlier post.
Russia will not back down for historical reasons, please do your own research on this.

Quite interesting to hear it from someone who lives on the other side of planet...
Quote from RussianLFSer :Russia isn't interested in Neo-Nazi or right ultra state on its border.
New Ukrainian authorities are illegal. They are impostors.
We are interested in saving Ukrainians and Russians.
As you can see, this "peaceful" protestor is a gangster and ultra-nationalist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVZCTPeMsk0
Russia can't afford them to rule over country.

Its rather stupid to move troops inside a country after all of the "action" ended, isn't it?

Go to Kiev for yourself and see "4th Neo-nazi reich" for yourself already, stop believing all that crap the internet and mass media are flooded.


As for the vid, he's an idiot and a clown, nothing more. As if you ain't got your own clowns.

I live in a mostly russian-speaking city, people are just fine in here, people want to leave in peace in their country. We can deal with our problem on our own, thanks
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Quote from ACCAkut :Put that guy on your ignore list and try to overlook that he posts to threads at all.

I tend to not declare my opinion on things I'm not clearly informed or not seen by myself. Good advice for anyone.
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Quote from -NightFly- :This part was published on local media over here today also. Russians biggest threat to them are themselves. Nothing is sanctuary to Russia. Ukraine should have reacted a bit quicker imo, they waited too long with this mobilization.

The thing is that this bald midget is trying to force two brother-nations into fight with each other, that they don't want to. War is the last thing we need, diplomats must work now at all their power, until its too late.
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Quote from Racer X NZ :White supremacist banners and Confederate flags were draped inside Kiev’s occupied City Hall, and demonstrators have hoisted Nazi SS and white power symbols over a toppled memorial to V.I. Lenin. After Yanukovich fled his palatial estate by helicopter, EuroMaidan protesters destroyed a memorial to Ukrainians who died battling German occupation during World War II. Sieg heil salutes and the Nazi Wolfsangel symbol have become an increasingly common site in Maidan Square, and neo-Nazi forces have established “autonomous zones” in and around Kiev.

An Anarchist group called AntiFascist Union Ukraine attempted to join the Euromaidan demonstrations but found it difficult to avoid threats of violence and imprecations from the gangs of neo-Nazis roving the square. “They called the Anarchists things like Jews, blacks, Communists,” one of its members said. “There weren’t even any Communists, that was just an insult.”
http://www.alternet.org/tea-pa ... backing-neo-nazis-ukraine

And here's who funded this 'peoples revolt'
http://www.blacklistednews.com ... ow/33271/0/38/38/Y/M.html

I'm not a supporter of America, China, or Russia. All I've been pointing out is some of the facts around this, and as I don't particualy want to see the world doing the big mushroom cloud thing, that gives me the right to have an opinion and comment.

Jeez...what are you smoking?

Suprisingly, Crimea was one of the most calm places during maidan protests for 3 months. The "force" scenario has been pushed by Putin's guys in Ukrainian government, but when they realized it isn't working and Yanukovich had to escape, suddenly (!) Crimea started to blow.

The vast majority of population of Ukraine was sick and tired of the self pronounced king and his family tearing the rest of the country apart.

The people that started the protest are not nazis, they want to live in a peaceful country and get decent money for their work. They are fed up with this bureaucracy and corruption shit. Period. If I want to live in my homeland and see it going forward is social standards and economics, than f*ck it, I am a nazi then. People were brought to the state when dying in a fight was the same as live on with this government.


Jews are just fine in here, in fact Kolomoyskiy should become the head of our central region, the man which is know as the most powerful Jew of Ukraine, how the f*ck is this antisemitism?

Communists are being pushed for being just the same mobs as Yanukovich was, that is completely fair. What the hell of a communist you are when you are drown in luxury in a poor country.

Putin just doesn't want Ukraine to be an Allie of EU, he needs a buffer zone with burned land.

No one touched soviet solders memorial in Lviv, because people aren't mad. Destroying Lenin's memorial is controversial, I agree. But in any revolution, there are some mistakes.

The only danger to native russians in Crimea are russian special forces that might kill them in order to escalate the conflict, just like it was in Georgia.

P.S. There is full scale mobilization in action all around Ukraine right now.
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Quote from Dennis93 :Glad to see that you're okay after all this!

It was relatively quiet in my city, although there was fuel and bank panic during those few days when all the blood massacre was going on in Kiev. I had to wait in a line for fuel for quite a long time (just had an empty tank that day). And I happen to be a witness of Lenin monument being pulled down.

Its a great shame that so much people died, but hopefully, their deaths were not useless. What an **** you must be to sh*t in a golden toilet when you're country is in ruins.
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Quote from BlueFlame :Stay safe Art, you're a good guy. Hope things get resolved quickly.

Thanks. I'll do my best)
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Quote from ACCAkut :You can be proud of you people. And what you have happening over there is probably the most well documented revolt/revolution ever.

http://reddit-stream.com/comments/1w4090/

Its a great shame that people died already. And its still very unclear that these loses were not useless. There is still a great amount of "slightly-less-intelligent" people that support the "goverment" which is pure mafia. People that attack peacfull meetings and jornalists with bats and guns (with rubber bullets) which they have been given by police officers (!!!!) for fcking 10 Euros...

Leaving this country is not emmigration - its evacuation...
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Ha ha. It is definetly much funnier to watch when its not happening outside your window. Siths deserved it anyway)
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Quote from ACCAkut :


Oh, the Lada 2108, it has a pretty light rear, I miss mine. Especially it's 20cm clearence when I found my Corolla in a 50cm snow and spent 3 hours digging my way to the road today.
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I've said good bye to my Lada 2108 also. Gave it back to it's previous owner, so she is in good hands. First car is like first love, you'll never forget it

Got myself a Toyota Corolla E110 sedan '97. Got some work to do with it until everything will be working properly, but already liking it

Not the actual photo, but mine has the same color.
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Quote from Crashgate3 :"Is taim to drap de bais"

The only thing he will drop once the plug will be swtiched on are his fingers...
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Thats why noone could defeat us
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Quote from DANIEL-CRO :I'm totally moving to Russia.

I hope you realise that D+ comes with 90+ kg...
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